What does Captain
Vieira says about it?
I lost contact
with him. But recently, in a medical appointment I met a familiar face
who asked me if I still remembered. Before I could answer, the person
smiled and said, 'I am Vieira, Captain from Cindacta in Gama'. Of
course I remembered, although many people had served under my command.
'Vieira of the flying saucer'', I said. 'That's me', he
replied. The funny thing is that it happened this week, only a few days
before this interview. That was such a coincidence because I haven't
seen him for the last 20 years or so. I even told him about our
interview and asked if he would also talk and he agreed, 'Tell them
to call me' [His interview will be done in a few
Do you have any
other case to tell?
Yes. There is
another story from a doctor in Sao Paulo. I had to undergo a medical
procedure called cinecoronoriography which is basically the ingestion of
contrasts in order to visualize whether arteries are open or blocked. I
didn't want to do that in Rio, so I went to Sao Paulo to be examined at
Hospital Sirio Libanes whose directors I know. I had helped them with
problems regarding the clearance of equipment withheld by Infraero. They
imported machines for medical examination, but didn't have the money to
collect them at the customs. So we entered an agreement: I would
authorize the clearance provided that they offer free treatment to a
number of poor people. And so we did. They performed well their part in
Then how about the
story you have to tell us?
The day following
my exams many doctors came to my room to thank me for that agreement and
so we talked. When most of them had left, one stood in the room and
started a chat about UFOs. I don't remember his name, but he was very
straight to the point, 'Brigadier, can I ask you a question'' I
said yes and he went on to say, 'Do you believe in UFOs'' I was
surprised and said, 'Ah, doctor, that's a very common question. I
don't know whether they exist or not, people believe what they want to
believe'. So he told me he was from a countryside town in the state
of Sao Paulo and had witnessed something there by 02h00 from the balcony
of his hotel room, 'It was a huge thing simply descending at the
city's square'. I asked what huge thing was that and he replied
straight away, 'It was a flying saucer!' Then he looked for my
advice on what to do and asked if he could tell his story. I told him
yes, he could do as he pleased, but I didn't want to make any comments.
He described the object and said to be close to it, no more than 30
meters away. I was impressed by his assertiveness and his will to state
that what he saw was a flying saucer. I have never met him again and do
not even know if he is still at the Hospital.
Have you heard of
any cases regarding UFOs escorting airplanes?
Cindacta radars spot strange things. For example, pilots flying
Brasilia-Sao Paulo route used to report sightings of lights following
their aircraft. We used to make them the usual questions such as the
duration of the event, the altitude of the objects, things like that.
Our questions over the radio aimed to get more details on what they were
claiming to have seen. Then we reported everything back to the
Aeronautics without expressing an opinion, which was the recommended
The procedure of
reporting to EMAER was an established guideline or was it done at your
Well, actually we
did like that because we didn't know what else to do. And we didn't
express any opinion because we also didn't know what to say. If I told
them I'd seen a flying saucer, they [EMBAER officers] would ask
me to describe it and I couldn't describe anything, since they were all
dots on the radar screen. So I only used to say, 'Look, there's a
light here spotted by the radar. I'll call it an 'electronic
anomaly''. That was always the name I used to give to those
phenomena, as I didn't have a better definition to give.