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Conversations With Ray Stanford (Part 1)
by Ed Komarek

Posted: 20:28 July 15, 2009

Conversations With Ray Stanford (Part 1)
Ray Stanford
I had a marathon phone conversation with Ray Stanford that lasted around eight hours the better part of a day. Ray is now seventy one years old and had a severe heart attack some time ago. As far as I know there is nobody in the world who has done as much of the hard science on UFOs as has Ray. His lifetime work of capturing UFOs on film and with scientific instruments is unprecedented. Most of us that have been in the UFOET field for awhile know of some of Ray’s earlier work a little of which is on the Internet. and

In this long conversation, Ray got me up to speed and expressed to me that he has continued this work quietly and out of the public eye. He explained to me in great detail something of his large body of solid scientific evidence, not only as to the existence of extraterrestrial spacecraft and occupants, but detailed scientific evidence as to the nature of the craft and the propulsion systems involved. He tells me he has close up photos of occupants in crafts that have never been made public. He has offered to brief me on this evidence if I can make it to Washington DC where he now lives.

Ray says he has briefed many high level scientists over his lifetime involved in both classified and unclassified research in plasma dynamics and electromagnetic propulsion systems and they have been amazed at the hard evidence he has accumulated. He discussed this all with me in great detail giving names, dates, places and names. He believes and I agree that there is nobody in the public domain anywhere that has as much hard evidence and detailed scientific knowledge and understanding as he has of anomalous aerial objects or AAOs, as Ray prefers to call what he has been tracking and how they operate.

Ray’s experiences with the UFO/ET community have been disappointing to him partly because the community is so infiltrated by the intelligence community and that a number of “researchers” work directly or indirectly for the CIA and other intelligence organizations. He shared with me his very detailed experiences with well-known persons in FUFOR and some other UFO organizations.

Ray and I believe that these organizations on the surface appear to be supporting serious scientific investigation of UFOs but in fact are working covertly to do everything they can to misguide UFO studies away from hard data monitoring (with instruments such as recording gravimeters, recording magnetometers, high-resolution cameras, spectrographic cameras, etc.).

We both believe establishment UFO/ET organizations are deliberately diverting public and scientific attention into less productive avenues such as trace-case studies and anecdotal accounts provided by civilian investigators or by government releases. Ray and I both agree there is very little hard serious scientific research going on in the UFO community, in a large part because of the intelligence community infiltration and the effects of counterintelligence operations. This clarification document provides evidence that the CIA has overall control in intelligence gathering and counterintelligence involving the UFO/ET subject.

Ray also shared with me his experiences with contactees such as George Adamski when he was a young man. At the time he believed in the stories of Adamski and misinterpreted his early UFO encounters in a contactee context. He was quickly set straight when Adamski confined in him the details of how he was hoaxing UFO photos and the fact that he had never had physical contact with alien craft or with their occupants. Such experiences with Adamski and with other “contactees” like Dan Fry and George Van Tassel, Ray says, taught him to be very skeptical of contactee claims.

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